tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7133337679802093018.post5763782975864696183..comments2023-12-30T06:49:48.543-06:00Comments on Ancient Evangelical Future: Crappyjack SpiritualityDavid Neffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07885526638338163556noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7133337679802093018.post-82221330199866914762007-08-15T16:12:00.000-05:002007-08-15T16:12:00.000-05:00I disagree with Mike that that the AEF Call is 'de...I disagree with Mike that that the AEF Call is 'designed to pull us back', although this condescending attitude to historical rooting is common among members of relatively young cultures (like the American one). We need to learn from the past, if we do want not to repeat the mistakes made in past times.<BR/>I do not share the typical Evangelical obsession with the rediscovery of the supposedly ideal primary church. It is sufficient to read the Scriptures to see that the Apostolic Church was far from ideal. Besides, we cannot go back, because there is no 'back' to go to.<BR/>At the other extreme, the modernist obsession with the supposed goodness of any new thing is equally faulty as a strategy for living.<BR/>The Call tries to analyze the present in light of Scriptures and dares to suggest that we may be more able to find solutions if we do not forget the past, but learn from the wisdom of the 'faith given to the saints once and for all'.<BR/>Danut ManastireanuDanutMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17869833882480114485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7133337679802093018.post-54020143613918124502007-08-15T09:50:00.000-05:002007-08-15T09:50:00.000-05:00"Crappyjack" - I'll be adding that to my lexicon; ..."Crappyjack" - I'll be adding that to my lexicon; hoping not to have to use it too often, but sadly...<BR/><BR/>Thanks for this, and welcome to the blogosphere.Brother Maynardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02222986639240643437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7133337679802093018.post-83380601928270196212007-08-15T09:29:00.000-05:002007-08-15T09:29:00.000-05:00i heard an interview with ken burns on the radio a...i heard an interview with ken burns on the radio as i was driving to work yesterday. he of course is the filmmaker of "Civil War" and other documentaries. he's got a new one starting next month on wwII. he says the thing we need to realize most is that the same divisions that divide us today existed then - that the image we have of the country being fully united against "evil dictators" is only due to hollywood and a lack of seeing things as they really were.<BR/><BR/>my point is that "crappyjack" seems designed to pull us back to a day when christianity had all its ducks in a row, to a time when we apparently knew - and everyone knew - what real christianity was and wasn't. <BR/><BR/>the truth is that there were a host of people killed in the first 500 years AD precisely because they decided to voice differences with the "mainline" church's dogma.<BR/><BR/>to me, there is no "right" christianity. there is no common orthodoxy that we'll ever be able to point to and say, "hey - *they've* got it nailed" (pun intended). to deny that humanity has learned more about the universe around us and how the world and its people have evolved misses the opportunity to see chrisitianity as a similary evolving message. critical scholarship should not be shunned or ignored simply because we think we can spell out in detail what was going on right after Jesus' day; i think the gospel differences, plus the non-canonical texts, plus what we continually learn about other fringe groups in the BC-turns-to-AD window says quite clearly that there is no one-size-fits-all.<BR/><BR/>let's look forward, and stop longing for how it (never) was.<BR/><BR/>mike rucker<BR/>http://escroll.blogspot.comspud tooleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09921322553025339949noreply@blogger.com